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Jaide
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 Posted - 2003/04/11 : 13:29:29
I recieved this email today from the Drug Policy Alliance informing me that last night the RAVE Act was attached to the new AMBER ALERT Bill.. and last night it passed through Congress...Read all of it if you like, or take action.. I just thought people might like to be aware of certain changes that might start happening very soon in the US, if not already in certain cities.
Dear Members, Subscribers and Friends,
I do not normally use our alert channel to send a personal message.
However, I wanted to let you know that the Illicit Drug Anti-
Proliferation Act (also called the "RAVE Act"), which was attached to
the AMBER Alert bill, passed both the House and Senate late yesterday
(April 10).
The RAVE Act threatens free speech and musical expression while
placing at risk any hotel/motel owner, concert promoter, event
organizer, nightclub owner or arena/stadium owner for the drug
violations of 3rd parties - real or alleged - even if the event
promoter and/or property owner made a good-faith effort to keep their
event drug-free. It applies not just to electronic-music parties,
but to any type of public gathering, including theatrical
productions, rock concerts, DJ nights at local bars, and potentially
even political rallies. It gives heightened powers and discretion to
prosecutors, who may use it to target events they personally don't
like - such as Hip-Hop events and gay and lesbian fundraisers.
Sadly, the RAVE Act was added to the AMBER Alert bill conference
report at the very last minute by Senator Biden (D-DE), its original
sponsor. The AMBER Alert bill creates a system for responding to
child abduction. It has nothing to do with drug policy. The RAVE
Act had not passed even a single committee in the House or Senate
this year. One senator's pet issue made a mockery of the Democratic
process - becoming law without any public hearing or opportunity for
input whatsoever.
You should be aware that your letters and faxes clearly had an
effect. (FYI - you sent Congress 13,000 faxes this week alone!!)
For example, the word "rave" was removed from the version of the bill
that passed. Eliminating such blatant discrimination is a victory
for our continued freedom of speech. Also, the original bill
suggested that prosecutors should view the sale of water and the
presence of glowsticks or massage oil as evidence of drug use. These
ludicrous "findings" were completely removed thanks to you.
President Bush will sign this child abduction bill, which means the
RAVE Act will become law as well. We will be working with the
legislators who opposed this provision - such as Senators Durbin,
Kennedy and Leahy and Representatives Conyers and Scott - for its
repeal. In the meantime, however, it is up to all of us to be the
watchdogs of its enforcement.
Attorney General John Ashcroft will have to make decisions about its
enforcement priority among the many public safety issues the
Department of Justice handles. He must be held responsible when he
implements this scheme. We want him to know that he is not free to
shut down our dance clubs, our festivals and our freedoms. We will
be watching the activities of law enforcement and prosecutors, and we
will act when our rights are violated. You can help us by faxing
Attorney General Ashcroft here.
http://actioncenter.drugpolicy.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=1581
We thank our many partners in this effort for your hard work: EM:DEF,
ROAR, Buzzlife Productions, Davey D., electronic dance and music
organizations throughout the U.S., club owners, hotel organizations,
beverage and licensing groups, the ACLU and many, many others. But
most of all, I want to say thank you personally to our members and
supporters.
You truly deserve credit for reacting so quickly and so forcefully.
It has really been amazing. When Bill McColl, our Director of
National Affairs, told me about this issue last June he said that he
thought the RAVE Act would pass in about 2 weeks. You proved us
wrong. It took 10 months, a change in control of the Senate,
backroom maneuverings and substantial changes to the bill. I'm
proud of the hard work of our members, friends and our coalition.
Rest assured we will continue to work together to mobilize opposition
and advocate to fix this dangerous law.
Sincerely,
Ethan Nadelmann
Executive Director
Drug Policy Alliance
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Founder/Promoter of I-Jam Productions in St.Louis
*Fully representing the Underground*
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Edited by - Jaide on 2003/04/11 13:31:10 |
DJ Mouse
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 Posted - 2003/04/11 : 14:51:45
lets hope we get nowt like that over this end of the pond :(
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Brian K
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Posted - 2003/04/11 : 15:45:52
no one would have voted against it due to what legislation it was tacked on to...i hate politics
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Broken
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Posted - 2003/04/11 : 21:51:34
"If you want to know what the future looks like, picture a boot stomping on a human face... forever."
This is a horrible precident. Dancing is one of the purest forms of human expression; what does that say about the people in charge?
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Comet
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Posted - 2003/04/11 : 22:09:26
Well... this just goes to show that the crappy people that use drugs at raves ruined it all for others.
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Simon
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Posted - 2003/04/12 : 00:30:53
I'm with mouse let's hope this doesn't happen over here....Well I don't think it will....for quite some time yet, So If all you over the other side want to join us  .
It is a shitter for you goes though....I feel for ya  .
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Tricky AB
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Posted - 2003/04/12 : 06:55:32
Man...that's friggen stupid...
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milo
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Posted - 2003/04/12 : 12:31:21
as soon as this tried to go through in prosecution it will get shut down and repealed would be my guess, let them have their little advance, we'll win in the end...
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KinokoBoy
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Posted - 2003/04/12 : 13:13:03
This just makes the raves in America worse than they already are.
Bring Hardcore to Upstate New York!!!!
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E-Vade
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 Posted - 2003/04/13 : 09:42:53
crapy. well at least im in the UK :P
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djtommyrenegade
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Posted - 2003/04/13 : 10:20:01
that is a bit of a shitter eh? well i'm in the uk so no harm dun here, but its a shame for you americans
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Jaide
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Posted - 2003/04/13 : 10:44:53
It does suck to an extint...this law just means that promoters who are in it for the right reasons will just have to take their events back underground, or actually put time and effort into the planning, and not just throw together some sloppy event to make a quick buck. Get a good security team, and take the right precautions so that there's no way the event can be shut down.
But as for the party kid who just HAS to be at a party hyped up on something illegal.. just keep a pair of tennis shoes on hand.. and when you see a cop coming your way, be ready to run like hell.
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TypeR
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 Posted - 2003/04/13 : 21:47:15
this law was passed on my birthday....happy birthday to me i'm committing a crime. pretty lame huh....
respect to the underground massif insyde!!
breakin the law
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Stevie c
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Posted - 2003/04/14 : 01:10:48
Man that sucks!!
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rezzna
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Posted - 2003/04/14 : 10:03:20
it does suck immensely but fortunately chances are as Milo said should trials occur because of this legislation it most likely could be found unconstitutional with the necessary backing and be removed.
and while it was passed because of drug use at raves, that doesn't mean the drug users are the problem, its the legislator's inability to see the real issues that are the problem, yes if there was no drug use at raves then none of this would have happened, but certainly in some places bouncers would far rather find a few pills than a knife, also because ****ed people are less likely to make trouble. i go to raves and i take drugs, as do many people i know, but its the fact that we harm no one in doing so that makes this bad, and attatching it to child abduction legislation so it really couldn't be delayed is a true crime.
why has nothing been done about senators rights to amend bills by placing completely irrelevent legislation deep within the hundreds of pages each request comes in, its unbelievable what you can get away with when you have the right friends
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dj_plur
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Posted - 2003/04/14 : 13:09:50
I was a victim of a similar bill that almost passed in Michigan. About 2 yrs ago, I threw a party, that was above board and totally legit. Because some stupid kid got caought with 15 pills, and some other stuff, the party got shut down, and we had a criminal lawsuit against us. The reason for the attempted bill in the first place was that former GOVERNOR ENGLER's neice got busted at a RAVE with XTC and was already Kandy-flippin when she got busted. So the gov. decided to push a law through. There were already unrelated laws in place, and the prosecuters tried to use those laws to nail us. For example, they used the "Crack-house" law by stating that we were providing a haven for drug addicts. And they even went so far as to use our company's name in various anti-mdma public service announcements.
The good news however is WE WON!!! the case got dismissed at the Michigan Court of Appeals, and we then filed a counter suit against the STATE of MICHIGAN for defamation of Character, and other stuff. We ended up selling out of court and the State of Michigan released a public apology. (the public aopology however was ran over the air in the middle of teh night so almost no one saw it, but that is beside the point)
The bad news, Even though we got a nice settlement, we had to close our doors, because the attorney fees ate up our assets. We are now building back up to our former status, though, and under a new name, with a new purpose.
Here are a couple of similar threads posted on DI
http://www.digitallyimported.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26735
http://www.digitallyimported.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26830
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