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LeVzi
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Posted - 2020/02/06 :  16:02:39  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit LeVzi's homepage  Reply with quote
Yeah but harmony of hardcore was at the perfect time when i'm not busy.



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17->21 sepetember is ibiza goes hard http://www.ibizahard.com/

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Posted - 2020/02/07 :  07:49:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit LeVzi's homepage  Reply with quote
I'll probably wait and go later in the year to one of the indoor ones.



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Posted - 2020/02/22 :  22:42:42  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
I know this is hardstyle but I'm liking sound of this. I like how the kickdrum sounds.



Uptempo - remember seeing some posts in this topic about it. Where did it originate from...hardstyle?

I found this Atmozfears track - check this song. It's using experimental kicks at the start and at end of track. What does anything think? I think the various kicks used at the start sound ok which are similar to what are in the original Move Ma Body track. The part after 2 minutes does sound more like hardcore kicks (Dutch hardcore) than hardstyle?



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Is the line between hardcore & hardstyle getting closer. When heard this track, I thought was hardcore but it's hardstyle. Devin Wild in the black hoodie looks about 15.



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quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
I know this is hardstyle but I'm liking sound of this. I like how the kickdrum sounds.




Sounds like one of Atmozfears kicks. The kick is indeed quite good but the melody is originally from Das Boot and has been already been reworked in Coone's Black Submarine which I prefer by a lot.

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Originally posted by Sulphurik:
I found this Atmozfears track - check this song. It's using experimental kicks at the start and at end of track. What does anything think? I think the various kicks used at the start sound ok which are similar to what are in the original Move Ma Body track. The part after 2 minutes does sound more like hardcore kicks (Dutch hardcore) than hardstyle?




Yeah the section after two minutes is hardcore. The version of the track you posted is an edit with the hardcore section added at the end. The hardcore section feels rather unintersing and lazy compared to the kicks in the first two sections though.
But I'm also a big fan of the kick variation in the track. In the last few years producers did start to experiment much more kick-wise, especially in the mid intro. For example check out:
Sub Zero Project & Villain - The Solution (first section)
Audiotricz - Let There Be Light (Code Black Remix) (first section)
Apexx - The Cleansing (Interlude)
Zatox - Deep Inside
Sub Zero Project - All For One

quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Is the line between hardcore & hardstyle getting closer.


For sure, one of the subgenres of hardstyle is xtra raw with there being a focus on creating some of the hardest kicks out there but at the tempo of hardstyle.
Some examples:
=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVHUsKg8g94Delete - Shut The Mind Up
Thyron - Rave Generation (kick at 1:45 is incredible; very last part is frenchcore)
Ncrypta Feat. Sovereign King - Project Z


Here's one last suggestion, probably my favourite hardstyle from last year:
Uncaged - The Wave


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Posted - 2020/05/14 :  18:50:19  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Came across this older remix very recently, always liked Dyewitness original. Quite like what they've done in this remix.





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Posted - 2020/05/22 :  22:03:27  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Panic in the mix going back to some classics earlier this eve!





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Posted - 2021/01/15 :  21:51:18  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Panic in the mix going back to some classics earlier this eve!





Just listened to wee bit of this again - anyone recognise the track starting at 33:06 seconds with piano breakdown a minute later?

Track starting around 1 hour 37 found out is Pilldriver - Apocalypse Never, hadn't heard this track but have to say do like the sound of this late 90s hardcore track. Actually thought it sounded like a Meagashira/Project Omeaga track. Maybe a track that influenced early Meagashira style. Apocalypse was defined as new style back then, slower style but it does sound like an early darkcore track and style around the time of early Meagashira releases & Endymion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZNz90015s


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Posted - 2021/01/15 :  21:53:14  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Had returned to this topic to mention this track and one of the artist High Voltage - this is Nosferatu doing hardstyle! Didn't realise he was doing this under this alias. I like this track below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCZNng_gJsU


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Posted - 2021/02/27 :  21:56:43  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Came across this track from Adaro - Ghost Town. It's one of "those" tracks (with the various kickdrums). Supposed to be hardstyle but is this uptempo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuEHRH58gV8




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quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Came across this track from Adaro - Ghost Town. It's one of "those" tracks (with the various kickdrums). Supposed to be hardstyle but is this uptempo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuEHRH58gV8


Nah, this is still considered hardstyle. The term uptempo is usually just used to describe a subgenre of hardcore. During the last few years the variety and amount of different kicks used has increased, especially during the mid-intros and outros and especially on the rawer side of hardstyle. Overall there's tons of variety in the hardstyle sound of today, from super euphoric melodic tracks to some of the hardest tracks hard dance music has to offer.

Here are some recent examples for the very euphoric, softer type of hardstyle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-v5SpNQ5Y (feel good track all the way through, no mid intro)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIIMIgTfUxE (rather generic example, melody and lead sounds just like the uk hardcore sound of today)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujxlVoZJoL8 (somewhat harder kicks, the vocals and lead however are as euphoric/cheesy as it gets)

Next up we have the most common, still very melodic but a little hard-edged tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l034JWq6XI8 (my favourite producer during the last few years)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfp0z4ndkIQ (fantastic mid-intro with an anthemic main-part)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKCku2Q9wLs (really fun track with a big variety in kicks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQpCWDD_5pw (incredible trance influences)

Rawstyle has a much bigger focus on kicks and darker atmosphere and melodies. This is also what I would classify the track you posted as. Here are some other examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN7RIFG-jGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSVLMqHg8lU (very melodic with hard hitting kicks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8eteC3kzgc(one of my favourite mid-intros from last year; huge focus on kicks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjK9Mwtu2cQ

Lastly the even harder tracks are considered Xtra Raw and had a huge boost in popularity during the last few years:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3zmWw2BTQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBC4Q7sBLY (one of the hardest tracks I know)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtvpXDZkWZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0SRy3mBy0 (huge collage of different kicks with the one at 2:52 being their signature one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dvHFOpjjaQ


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quote:
Originally posted by Sulphurik:
Came across this track from Adaro - Ghost Town. It's one of "those" tracks (with the various kickdrums). Supposed to be hardstyle but is this uptempo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuEHRH58gV8



Cross between rawstyle and hardstyle maybe. Definitely not uptempo


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Posted - 2021/03/05 :  17:17:30  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
Another subgenre have come across. It's not hardcore but a hardstyle subgenre...dubstep and hardstyle = dubstyle.



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Edited by - Sulphurik on 2021/03/05 17:18:31
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Posted - 2021/04/08 :  20:37:33  Show profile  Send a private message  Visit Sulphurik's homepage  Reply with quote
I do like a few tracks from Bass D & King M from around this time - early 2000s.





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Edited by - Sulphurik on 2021/04/08 20:39:22



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