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acidfluxxbass
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 Posted - 2011/06/01 : 14:14:48
I standby what I said... I'm not going to give you a hard time, or try and push out off the forums..
But, you have been here a few years now. You must be able to see that this forum is quite close knit?
I talk to some of these guys including you, more than some of my best mates - for one reason or another. We interact with each other everyday, and the fact latin called the cops for you was a sign that we're more than just randomers lurking around and arguing, or various usernames just talking about the same old shit... On this forum people have married, talked about issues, and sorted personal problems..
You let us believe for an entire year that someone who we grew to know and such was dead, and committed suicide, and sat there all along. I for one, kept an eye on news in that area to see if it was true, and latin called the cops, which is evidence we give a shit.
But as I said, I'm glad your ok, and that things are better, and I dont particularly want you to leave.
But like Paul said, if it is a joke, and an abuse of trust, feel free to go. USH.net will gladly have another member...
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 14:30:46
what a wonderfully dysfunctional loveable online family we have! lol
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 18:00:07
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what a wonderfully dysfunctional loveable online family we have! lol
it's like we're inbreds from the southern states!
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 18:39:30
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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TBH while reading that the only thing that i kept thinking was "its selfish to commit a suicide". Which is the biggest self righteous BS i usually come across. Someone is so depressed that they want to end their life completely and you want to put your suffering above it?
People have ups and downs. All part of life. In Finland's 13-16 year olds, 25% of the girls and 15% of the boys have thought of suicide. Up until the 90's we were leading the suicide rates in the world. Luckily something happened and we've had a change for the better. My point is the subject has been rather present in my teen years here. Which is probably why i don't think blaming the victim helps.
Anyway best of luck ChiefRayPosition your welcome to stay ...or leave, as you choose.
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tru bass
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 19:15:56
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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TBH while reading that the only thing that i kept thinking was "its selfish to commit a suicide". Which is the biggest self righteous BS i usually come across. Someone is so depressed that they want to end their life completely and you want to put your suffering above it?
People have ups and downs. All part of life. In Finland's 13-16 year olds, 25% of the girls and 15% of the boys have thought of suicide. Up until the 90's we were leading the suicide rates in the world. Luckily something happened and we've had a change for the better. My point is the subject has been rather present in my teen years here. Which is probably why i don't think blaming the victim helps.
Anyway best of luck ChiefRayPosition your welcome to stay ...or leave, as you choose.
I don't know for a fact but I heard the high suicide rate in finland is due to the completely dark winters, is that true?
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 19:50:28
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Originally posted by tru bass:
I don't know for a fact but I heard the high suicide rate in finland is due to the completely dark winters, is that true?
No. People get depressed in winter or "kaamos masennus" (polar night depression) as its called here. Most of Finland have some sunlight in the days in winter (i live in south and its about 6 hours a day of sunshine ...though which i spend in the office staring a screen). But the loss of sunlight doesn't cause suicides, 'cause most of suicides are done in spring to early summer (though September has a little spike on suicide rates too).
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latininxtc
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 20:01:12
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Originally posted by tru bass:
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
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TBH while reading that the only thing that i kept thinking was "its selfish to commit a suicide". Which is the biggest self righteous BS i usually come across. Someone is so depressed that they want to end their life completely and you want to put your suffering above it?
People have ups and downs. All part of life. In Finland's 13-16 year olds, 25% of the girls and 15% of the boys have thought of suicide. Up until the 90's we were leading the suicide rates in the world. Luckily something happened and we've had a change for the better. My point is the subject has been rather present in my teen years here. Which is probably why i don't think blaming the victim helps.
Anyway best of luck ChiefRayPosition your welcome to stay ...or leave, as you choose.
I don't know for a fact but I heard the high suicide rate in finland is due to the completely dark winters, is that true?
it is for the states in the US, or at least was at one point. longer winters = more depression. and for americans, ppl either deal with it the right way, overeat (some of our coldest places have the fattest ppl) or...
and i kind of believe it is a selfish act to commit suicide. most ppl who do it don't care about how it will affect others. suicide isn't like having a 100 yr old grandma dieing of natural causes, or someone who has passed away from battling a long illness such as cancer. you know why they're passing away and even though you'll always hurt somewhat, you're not left with unanswered questions or a feeling like you are partly the fault because there was something that you could have done, even though you knew nothing of the situation.
and most of them don't even bother to ask the ppl in their lives (families, friends, other loved ones) to help them with whatever situation they're involved in. there are always other ways to deal with your problems besides ending your life. and there's always someone out there willing to help you.
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 20:15:32
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
and i kind of believe it is a selfish act to commit suicide. most ppl who do it don't care about how it will affect others. suicide isn't like having a 100 yr old grandma dieing of natural causes, or someone who has passed away from battling a long illness such as cancer. you know why they're passing away and even though you'll always hurt somewhat, you're not left with unanswered questions or a feeling like you are partly the fault because there was something that you could have done, even though you knew nothing of the situation.
I know this will sound provocative, but its what i believe. The way i read that is "its OK to torture one person so that other people can feel better about themselves". Its usually nobodies fault someone commits suicide. If someone wants to take blame thats fine, but after taking it don't blame the suicider for taking it. How bad things should go before you would rather jump the bridge then see another day? Imagine that feeling and blame the one going through with it every day for being selfish.
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Warnman
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 20:59:41
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Originally posted by latininxtc:
and most of them don't even bother to ask the ppl in their lives (families, friends, other loved ones) to help them with whatever situation they're involved in.
Not everyone has! And sometimes those people are a puzzle piece of the situation possible sucides are facing.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/06/01 : 23:11:57
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Originally posted by whispering:
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
*text*
TBH while reading that the only thing that i kept thinking was "its selfish to commit a suicide". Which is the biggest self righteous BS i usually come across. Someone is so depressed that they want to end their life completely and you want to put your suffering above it?
People have ups and downs. All part of life. In Finland's 13-16 year olds, 25% of the girls and 15% of the boys have thought of suicide. Up until the 90's we were leading the suicide rates in the world. Luckily something happened and we've had a change for the better. My point is the subject has been rather present in my teen years here. Which is probably why i don't think blaming the victim helps.
Anyway best of luck ChiefRayPosition your welcome to stay ...or leave, as you choose.
I'm not saying its selfish, even though it is.
I'm saying its weird to tell a load of people that hes gonna commit suicide and let them believe it. Maybe you need to re-read my posts. Both of them.
I think that if anyone considers suicide however, theres a degree of mental unstableness behind it. My friends who've committed suicide were unstable. But I know other people who've been forced onto the streets, and are able to live through it. I dont know the story, but I dont see why Chris would want to do it, and leave the only evidence on an internet forum. Its ****ed.
I'm not convinced, and I still feel its messed up.
edit:: I dont even know what ****ing text your quoting.....?
Your an admin, your meant to know how to use forums. Who the **** deletes the text and just writes "*text*"
Sort it.
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whispering
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Posted - 2011/06/02 : 00:20:58
acidfluxxbass, last time i removed the text of sheer laziness of writing your name down. As it was i was talking to you, not replying to any specific post. I do thank you for the promotion.
Also i would like to point out that my "beef" with your posts wasn't because of this specific incident, but your way of taking a moral high ground on any issue i believe you have no idea about.
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acidfluxxbass
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Posted - 2011/06/02 : 00:29:08
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acidfluxxbass, last time i removed the text of sheer laziness of writing your name down. As it was i was talking to you, not replying to any specific post. I do thank you for the promotion.
Also i would like to point out that my "beef" with your posts wasn't because of this specific incident, but your way of taking a moral high ground on any issue i believe you have no idea about.
moral highground?
think we're have a few language barriers because i have no idea wtf you are on about sometimes..
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atomsk
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Posted - 2011/06/02 : 08:38:49
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I don't think he did it to get a laugh Olly mate. At the time of posting, he was probably deadly serious.
Not sure if intended, but I did lol..
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Originally posted by acidfluxxbass:
moral highground?
think we're have a few language barriers because i have no idea wtf you are on about sometimes..
I understood what he said, it just seems like this topic has hit a sour note with you. As you said you know someone who has or tried to kill themselves. You have made it real clear that this bothers you, we know, you do not need to try and take it out on others who are just trying to make it better or trying to make him feel like he should not leave.
We all have our own opinion and reasoning on this subject, its okay, you can vent, just try not to act like you know more about this subject than others.
If it comes down to it, I may have more experience than all of you, having 3 friends kill themselves, taking 4 others down from it, working for a program to help others who feel like they did not need to end it all.
All in all, Rayovac, please stay, I know who you are by that name and you use to be a cool cat when you talked. If you need anyone to talk you, just shoot my a pm and we can talk on msn or something...
Inb4: I get flamed.
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Dante
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Posted - 2011/06/02 : 15:18:46
I used to think that suicide was selfish too, but over the course of my life I've been down some dark roads mentally, so now I'm not so sure. Maybe it's your family and friends that are the selfish ones, for demanding you live your life despite the fact that it's nothing but suffering and disappointments? :p It's not all black or white.
Personally I believe Rayovac could have been serious about committing suicide when he wrote the post. Just because he didn't go through with it, doesn't mean he was being an ass and wanted to make us believe something that wasn't true. Personally I'm glad he didn't kill himself, and if it's up to me, he's welcome to stay here on the forum.
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Posted - 2011/06/02 : 15:21:29
either that or you lot just got trolled so hard! ;)
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