| Author |
Thread |
|
number2301
Senior Member
Virgin Islands (US)
408 posts
Joined: Jul, 2002
|
 Posted - 2002/12/30 : 07:23:48
quote:
Originally posted by kg4:
ok, there is freeform which is the stuff on bonkerz,data,xy2,etc...
and there is trancecore which is gabber, with trancey synths sped up to like... 200+ bpm
its really an opinion i suppose, some people call it trancecore, and some people use the term trancecore for freeform....
kind of like that drum n bass/jungle debate in a way..
im sure someone on here knows what im talking about right?
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
Trancecore or Freeform is about 165bmp (?) somat close to that anyway and is what Sharkey/Kev Energy play. Gabber with trancy synths at 200+ bpm? Eh??? Never heard of that.
-------------------------
Number 2301 is godverdomme het HARDSTE!
'Living in my world is easy, there is only peace, love and ... ecstacy'
Alert moderator 
|
kg4
Advanced Member
United States
802 posts
Joined: Mar, 2001
36 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2002/12/30 : 08:44:54
i am NOT talking about kevin energy type freeform.... i know that is not 200 bpm+
im not stupid, but surely SOMEONE has heard what i am talking about... and yeah thats what it is number2301.... its gabber with trancey synths at 200 bpm... there isnt much of it, but its there
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
Alert moderator
Edited by - kg4 on 2002/12/30 08:45:23 |
Stevie c
Advanced Member
Belgium
3,836 posts
Joined: Dec, 2002
204 hardcore releases
|
 Posted - 2003/01/01 : 23:32:10
I may of heard of it, but its not trancecore.
Your into the sound of Rebellion
__________________________________
me white gloves and neon sticks leave an endless trail
Alert moderator
|
number2301
Senior Member
Virgin Islands (US)
408 posts
Joined: Jul, 2002
|
Posted - 2003/01/02 : 06:46:57
quote:
Originally posted by kg4:
i am NOT talking about kevin energy type freeform.... i know that is not 200 bpm+
im not stupid, but surely SOMEONE has heard what i am talking about... and yeah thats what it is number2301.... its gabber with trancey synths at 200 bpm... there isnt much of it, but its there
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
Sorry mate didn't mean to be condescending :)
I have never heard what you're talking about tho, seems Trancecore is alot of different things to different people.
-------------------------
Number 2301 is godverdomme het HARDSTE!
'Living in my world is easy, there is only peace, love and ... ecstacy'
Alert moderator
|
strychnine
Advanced Member
Australia
2,268 posts
Joined: Feb, 2002
92 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/02 : 13:05:52
kg4: Are you by any chance talking about stuff like "Thunderdome" by Rex Anthony? I believe that this style of music is also referred to as 'trancecore' in some places.
______________________________________________________________
I pity anyone who isn't me.
Alert moderator
|
kg4
Advanced Member
United States
802 posts
Joined: Mar, 2001
36 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/02 : 16:07:11
well, i dont know any names... but if it soudns like my description.. yes :P
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
Alert moderator
|
strychnine
Advanced Member
Australia
2,268 posts
Joined: Feb, 2002
92 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/04 : 23:19:41
Yeah it's like the old North American fast/dark style of gabber but with trancey riffs in place of the Satan-worship stuff.
______________________________________________________________
I pity anyone who isn't me.
Alert moderator
|
rezzna
Senior Member
United Kingdom
283 posts
Joined: Nov, 2002
|
Posted - 2003/01/05 : 02:19:36
wouldn't the world be so much easier without names?
help me here people,
gabber to me was always stupidly fast and so distorted it made no sense, and, for me, quite shite.
now ppl tell me nu-style gabber is neophyte and Scott Brown, which i love.
god knows what trancecore is i avnt heard enuff of it.
an i always thought freeform was stuff like DJ Ham?!
am i ignant?
or just a poor weak newbie?
*strychnine please have mercy ;)*
__________________________________
"don't worry about it, if i were you i wouldn't remember me either"
Alert moderator
|
strychnine
Advanced Member
Australia
2,268 posts
Joined: Feb, 2002
92 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/05 : 14:01:29
2 schools of gabber: the faster, more "dark" North American variety (think old Omar Santana or Rob Gee stuff) and the slower, cheesier, hoover-infested stuff coming out of Rotterdam, from which the current European styles (including Nu-style) evolved.
As for trancecore, there are 3 possible definitions:
(1) a style of fast gabber with trance synths in place of the dark hoovers (eg Rex Anthony - Thunderdome);
(2) an alternative name to "freeform" (eg pretty much anything from the Nu Energy label); or
(3) the style of UK hardcore which places heavy emphasis on trance elements (eg most of the Raver Baby releases).
Confusing? Yep ... but as silver would say: "Don't label it, just listen to it".
______________________________________________________________
I pity anyone who isn't me.
Alert moderator
|
toxicmusic
Junior Member
United Kingdom
115 posts
Joined: Nov, 2002
|
 Posted - 2003/01/06 : 09:53:52
*bursts into song*
"Music, music, don't abuse it, listen to it!!"
Sorry.  
*sits quietly back down*
Whatever you like, you like, whatever you don't, ain't hardcore... - M.A.D
__________________________________
~This is the beginning of something Happy and Hardcore~
~# [email protected] #~
Alert moderator
|
Stevie c
Advanced Member
Belgium
3,836 posts
Joined: Dec, 2002
204 hardcore releases
|
 Posted - 2003/01/07 : 03:46:35
Thank you strychine!!
A simple easy and short defination
Of course my trancecore is the REAL one as it is the oldest!! Only kidding!!
Your into the sound of Rebellion
__________________________________
me white gloves and neon sticks leave an endless trail
Alert moderator
|
number2301
Senior Member
Virgin Islands (US)
408 posts
Joined: Jul, 2002
|
Posted - 2003/01/07 : 07:55:04
quote:
Originally posted by strychnine:
2 schools of gabber: the faster, more "dark" North American variety (think old Omar Santana or Rob Gee stuff) and the slower, cheesier, hoover-infested stuff coming out of Rotterdam, from which the current European styles (including Nu-style) evolved.
*lol* I love the way Americans always say their music the hardest and everything else is cheesy! ;)
-------------------------
Number 2301 is godverdomme het HARDSTE!
'Living in my world is easy, there is only peace, love and ... ecstacy'
Alert moderator
|
kg4
Advanced Member
United States
802 posts
Joined: Mar, 2001
36 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/07 : 11:16:16
i dont think we have the hardest.. and you CANT say t hat the old rotterdam isnt cheesey "break out the casio, and the drum machine!"
Oh man, I hope I didn't brain my damage...
Alert moderator
|
rezzna
Senior Member
United Kingdom
283 posts
Joined: Nov, 2002
|
Posted - 2003/01/08 : 03:42:43
"Start the war,
cuz we are on the floor,
it's never seen before,
army of hardcore"
neophyte vs. the stunned guys - army of hardcore....
i can see the cheesy argument.....
gud choon tho :0)
__________________________________
"don't worry about it, if i were you i wouldn't remember me either"
Alert moderator
|
strychnine
Advanced Member
Australia
2,268 posts
Joined: Feb, 2002
92 hardcore releases
|
Posted - 2003/01/08 : 04:05:53
quote:
Originally posted by number2301:
*lol* I love the way Americans always say their music the hardest and everything else is cheesy! ;)
Err ... I'm Australian.
And back to the subject at hand, kg4's got it right, Rotterdam did use a lot of cheesy elements. In fact, some would hold that it was the first genre to ever employ the hoover to any great extent.
...
Oh, and Stevie C, my nick is strychnine. That's S-T-R-Y-C-H-N-I-N-E (pronounced "strick-nine"), as in the white, crystalline, very poisonous alkaloid, obtained from the plant nux vomica, formerly used in small quantities as a stimulant of the central nervous system and the appetite, and in larger quantities as a tool of assassination.
(Sorry 'bout that, but I realised at the HHC.com meetup at the last Hyperspeed that no-one knew how to pronounce the word, let alone have any idea what it meant.)
______________________________________________________________
I pity anyone who isn't me.
Alert moderator
|
Printer friendly
